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“I’m Fighting This ER Bill All the Way” Says ER Overcharges Victim

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Corsicana, TXActing on the advice of a doctor at her local clinic, Robin went to the Dallas hospital emergency room with symptoms of food poisoning—nausea and diarrhea. Turns out, she simply had a urinary tract infection and was sent home after a few hours with two prescriptions. Then she received an ER bill for more than $3,000. “These Emergency Room Overcharges are ridiculous,” says Robin, “and it is fraudulent billing for services not provided.”

Adding insult to injury, three weeks ago she received another bill for $600, this time from the ER physician at the Navarro Regional Hospital Physician’s Group. It has the same billing address as the hospital in Dallas.

“This doctor saw me for about two minutes when I first got to ER,” says Robin. “He just stuck his head in the door and explained how they would hook me up to an IV because I was dehydrated and go from there. Just before I left he saw me again just to say I was being released and would get a few prescriptions, an antibiotic and a med for nausea." Robin also took home a signed consent treatment form stating she will pay whatever insurance doesn’t pay.

How could the hospital justify this exorbitant amount? Upon her request, the hospital mailed Robin an itemized bill. “For starters I was charged for four Zofran and one Depakote --a medication I take for seizures,” she explains. “One Depakote pill costs me 40 cents but they charged me $438 for one pill that wasn’t even given to me, nor was it given by IV.

“I phoned the hospital’s billing department and said these charges were outrageous and that I was willing to mediate for the services provided for the average price that you pay an insurance company. This woman said she would send me out a charitable form, but I am on SSDI and not eligible.” (Robin has a portfolio and retirement income, and she owns her home so she doesn’t qualify for SSI.)

Robin, a former pharmacy student and social worker for more than 22 years, knows what she is and isn’t entitled to—she used to fill out these charitable forms for her clients. In fact Robin’s clients had faced the same type of billing problems and services not rendered by this same hospital. “Most of my clients didn’t have the benefit of education; they were elderly and confused and had no idea where to turn,” Robin says. "These people certainly are unaware that they could dispute medical bills.

“Even though I had many clients I advocated for, I never thought it would happen to me,” she adds. “I used to call this hospital on their behalf and administration told me they would just write off the bill as charity. Or I would tell them they were on SSI and they would just write it off completely.”

Next up, Robin requested her medical records. “They asked me if I was sending my medical records to an attorney,” Robin says. “I told her they were for me but they might go to an attorney in the future. ‘In that case you have to pay $34,’ she replied. This had now become absolutely ridiculous.”

Then Robin called the Physicians Group and said she could pay them $50 per month. “They sent me another bill yesterday that says I agreed to pay my bill and this physician was available to treat me,” Robin adds. “They are trying to guilt me into paying. Doctors at this hospital receive an average of 35 percent of patient payments, according to the Texas Department of Health and Services.

I also checked out Texas Price Point, which gives the average price per hospital per average stay. And my friend, who works here in Texas for Blue Shield, is going to look up the average settlements. He thinks he can mediate and get it down to $1500. I believe I shouldn’t pay more than $500 so I need an experienced attorney to dispute this bill. And I’m going to stick to my guns.

The hospital asked if I wanted to set up a payment plan but that would be admitting to their charges. I’m not worried about my credit rating either because I’ve had a perfect credit score all my life. It is reassuring that others have filed ER Overcharges lawsuits. I’ve fought many a hard battle in my career; people tell me I need to choose my battles and these ER overcharges has pushed me too far."

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Please people BE AWARE of a major SCAM in GEORGIA of course. There is a law firm that has its SOUL business is to take on A "Georgia Law" that has spread to other states and the purpose is to SCAM you out of a personal injury settlement. It takes and place a LIEN on your law suit, begins to talk to the INSURANCE company on your behalf and cashes the check without your SIGNATURE or CONSENT..... An ER bill of 13,000.00 was received by me long after the time limit to refute it and the Insurance company goes along with it. You end up with nothing. The Kick is the Bill is totally BOGUS A nurse came by after I sat there for 1 hour and 30 od minutes ad said to me ""I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONE" that is as much as was said to me other than a man rolling a around
collecting address and drivers and insurance information for their LIENS which in my case were wrong so the LIEN was ILLEGAL as it stands. These hospitals are pure criminal and can not be trusted for anything

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For all of you out there that are fighting medical bill overcharging here is what you do. First, do not pay anything until you do the following: send the statement back with a note that you do not pay without an itemized/detailed bill that includes CPT/ICD9 codes and descriptions plus charges broken down for each. Next request your medical records (this way you can compare your records with the next step) If you are unfamiliar with the codes look them up and make sure this fits exactly what was done to you, if not, circle it and I'll tell you what to do with it later. Next, call call the billing office and request a face to face meeting or phone call if travel is not an option, with the department head of billing (for hospitals that will be the VP of Clinical Operations and/or a supervisor, depending on how big the hospital is. Let them know that if the charges that you circled earlier with comparing your medical records with billing are not fixed, meaning deleted, changed and/or rebilled to your insurance you will do the following. Send a formal complaint to the state Department of Insurance (example I live in Texas and I would send it to The Texas State Insurance Department in Austin) because at this point the hospital, clinic, outpatient facility, etc. will know you know they have to follow the rules of that states Department of Insurance. Second, tell them you will also contact your insurance company & turn them in for fraudulent charges. These tactics have worked time and time again. If they even think you have the slightest bit of knowledge of how to turn them in to the authorities they WILL listen and do anything to keep from having the state come in and do an audit, because it won't just be your bill they will look at everyone's bill. I learned years ago as a nurse that if it wasn't charted it didn't happen.
I was a nurse for 10 years, a healthcare manager for 10 years and the last 10 years was spent consulting physicians & patients regarding medical bills. The other tidbit of info is that if you observe anything while you are at the hospital that looks unsafe, unhealthy or a possible danger, let them know when you meet/talk with them that you will send a formal complaint to JCAHO (any facility in the U.S. has to be accredited by this entity to have/keep a license to stay open to see patients, JCAHO performs regular audits of these facilities however when they get a complaint they will come and do a much more thorough audit of that facility and the facility can be fined and closed or just fined for failure to adhere to that state's regulations). This is a great way to get their attention. So....be observant when you are in these facilities because it will come in handy when you are negotiating fees. I have even had not one but two of my own entire hospital bills waived just because I used the 3 threats, insurance fraud, Department of Insurance, & JCAHO. Also, if you can't get anywhere with all of the above people, don't be afraid to use either the Administrator of the hospital or their legal counsel. That is actually where I ended up with both of the aforementioned hospital bills, one was the administrator and one was the legal counsel for the hospital.
Good Luck and hope this information helps you all.

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Raquel Saenz

Someone mentioning low income or illegal immigrant, is not racist. "Illegal immigrant" isn't a race. "Low income" isn't a race.

Take your PC attitude and go away.

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I am unwell, uninsured and have not worked in 3+ years because of multiple Illnesses. Last summer, I broke my ankle on 5/12/2015 and then had apanic attack on 5/13/2015 and wound up in the ER both days. I do not qualify for medicaid here in Florida so I filled out the forms for financial assistance through Trinity Medical Center in New Port Richey. I submitted the paperwork they asked for and was granted a full forgiveness of the bill. This pat June, I wound up in the ER again, due to another kidney infection. I was in the Er for a total of about 7 hours. they gave me saline (IV), a nausea pill, an antibiotic pill, an ultrasound w/o contrast, and then another with contrast. I lay in that bed in pain becuse they "forgot" to give me a pain killer. Then they sent me home with a prescription. I received a bill for charges of $44,824.10, with a laughable so called discount of $38,548.73, and a balance of $6,275.37. I did everything they said regarding sending in my taxes. I even sent in a copy of my social security account showing no income earned since 2013. I explained to them that my autistic daughter and I live in my home that I own outright and that we were surviving on her SSI check of $488 a month and SNAP benefits of $352 a month. I have zero personal income. A few weeks after I filed for assistance, I received a denial from Parallon saying that my income was above the poverty limit!This upset me so much because I do not work and have not for years. Even if my daughters SSI could be counted as my own income, which it cannot, it is still way below poverty. I Called them and asked what was going on. After being laughed at by the woman that answered the phone, I was told I needed to file an appeal, so I filed the appeal. A few weeks after that, I received another letter from them stating that I had been denied financial assistance from the hospital by "Experian". This upset me even more because why would a person without a job or insurance need to have a credit check done to get a charity write off from the hospital? I called about this and the guy I was dealing with spoke to me as if I were a child being chastised! I told him what had transpired and that I had already sent in tax forms, bank statements and a letter in writing requesting the appeal. He put me on hold for a long time and then came back saying that they can see that I sent in the paperwork and that he has sent a message over to some department to have them reopen my case. That was about 3 weeks to a month ago. Today, I received a bill from Trinity Medical Center for $6,275.37 again. There is no way that a couple of pills and 2 ultrasound and some saline costs almost $45,000! I took my prescription for the antibiotics to walmart and paid $25 for 10 pills. So exactly how much did that 1 pill I got at the hospital cost? This is not charity. I have been diagnosed with Hashimotos, Fibromyalgia, Sicca syndrome, Peripheral and autonomic neuropathy, OA, Chronic Kidney disease, carpal tunnel, DDD, Anemia, General Anxiety Disorder....and the list goes on. I have a social security disability case pending and I also let them know that. This bill coming in the mail today is just not what I expected from these people. They are not helping. Right now, I am trying to fight off another kidney infection with home remedies because I am afraid to go to the hospital for fear of another outrageous bill for nothing. I did not even get a cup of water the whole time I was there, and the the nurses ignored me when I pressed the button to get help for going to the bathroom....3 times! As I said, they did not even give me the Tylenol I asked for because of my raging headache. This is criminal what they are doing to sick people. My original bill should have been so high and my remaining bill should have been written off because I have no income. I am beyond stressed at this point.

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I received a bill for $2400 that includes a IV charge of $1800, but I didn't even receive an IV on my ER visit due to excessive menstrual bleeding. I was there for less than one hour and I only got an ultrasound and blood drawn. How do I dispute this ridiculous charge?

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In point pleasant nj er they charged me $1,200 for one prescription of anti biotic.....wtf....

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Hello All!
I am riding on the same boat as you all. I had a mild ACL tear and bad knee pain. I went to ER where they took my X-ray and sent me a bill of $9000. And that precious X-ray took up my 6 hours... I am not kidding. They are forcing me to file for charity but what if I don't qualify for charity? That means, I would be accepting their crazy charges.
Can anyone of you who has fought for this or gained resolution guide me for my next step. What should I expect, where can I escalate this issue. Please please share your experiences.

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About two years ago, I went to the hospital for severe stomach pain. I was menstruating at the time, but my pain wasn't from cramps. It was my stomach, it felt like severe nausea and indigestion at the same time, never had anything like it before. I didn't have insurance at the time, and I knew I was taking a risk going to the ER, but I couldn't take the pain anymore. When I went to the ER, my blood pressure was elevated, and I had a low grade fever. I spent 8 hours in the ER. I got one IV bag, a shot of Ondansetron, they drew one tube of blood, and got a prescription that I didn't bother filling because out of pocket for the meds would have been over $110. I got no answers as to why I was hurting so bad, why I had a low grade fever and what was causing my elevated blood pressure. All I was told was my blood test came back normal. At one point, I told the nurse I had I was really hurting (before I received the IV medication). She said two patients came in VIA ambulance, and she needed to tend to them first.

Some time passed and I received a bill in the mail. It was for $4,077. It was later listed on my credit report. I reached out to the hospital recently to discuss this bill and to come to some resolution. Obviously, no resolution was met. I was basically told that's the charges the hospital has in place, it's been sent to collections, and that it needs to be paid. I was very civil during this conversation and while I was explaining I got absolutely no answers to my condition at that time, and very little service was given. I lost my temper when the financial counselor said "Well, they gave you an IV." Not only was I heavily insulted by that because I'm a pharmacy major, I was also irritated because this woman actually thinks their IV bags and blood work are worth $4,077. Then, when I mentioned I never got any results back from the medical department. I was told to go to the records department to obtain those records. At that point, I completely lost it, demanded the number to their legal department, I said I was getting a lawyer and I hung up the phone.

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Last year I was in my very first car accident with my boyfriend. Went to the ER did NOT take the ambulance because I've watched my grandpa and grandma get taken to the hospital in them and they cost a whopping $1500. So no thanks I said. We get to the hospital ourselves and I'm being seen for a chest innury because of the airbag. Only saw the guy for two seconds to walk me to the xray room and then to tell me an hour later that I'm fine and can leave.
His bill was for $625. While the hospital bill was over $1,000 and close to $2,000. They kept asking for my car insurance but if I don't have a license, how the freak do I have car insurance! I'm a kid! I'm not there yet. I didn't want my boyfriends insurance to pay because it wasn't his fault it was the speeding cars fault. My regular health insurance paid off the hospital bill but bevause it was months after the crash that the stupid doctor sent me HIS bill, my insurance refuses to pay for it. My dad will thankfully pay for it but they just doubled it! To $1,222. Who does that? They double billed me! Hospitals are such a scam. It's not our choice to have an accident or our insides burst. Mind you, this is a CT hospital. It sucks. They make you wait so long and the doctor only sees you for a second. I saw this dude before for another illness I had that he misdiagnosed me for. I had tonsillitis but he "can't see anything wrong with my tonsils." Excuse me? Do you not see the bubble of puss dripping down that tonsil? Bill was $700 for that. And for what? To be seen for a split second? This sucks.

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My adult son has been receiving medical bills for a man with the same first and last name. The other man is 16 years older than my son. It seems that when this man was brought in by ambulance they used my sons file. The first bill we received was for over $25,000. for a flight that took him from our local hospital to the University hospital. Trying to convince some of these people of their mistake is a joke. Now my concern is did they mistreat the man with my sons medical history? Could my son be mistreated from what they could have put in his history if he has an emergency? (say a blood type) What happens to my sons credit? It is extremely scary to think this could even happen. The newspapers had his information correct, why not the hospital. Just needed to vent. Thanks!

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I went to the ER "clinic" because my entire face swelled up from an infected tooth and I was afraid and needed antibiotics. It was already late so I went there.

I had my blood pressure and temperature taken. The "doctor" came in for 30 seconds. Saw my face and said, "yep, I'll get you some antibiotics".

All that...a whopping 10 minutes in the place and I get a bill for over $1300. Obviously they can stick it, and I'll never pay it...but I would like to see if there's an actual way I can do it "legally" without just giving them the finger.

It's encouraging seeing that other people aren't going to put up with this.

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I am sorry, so how do you fight these charges?

I am having a similar issue right now, being billed for some sort of a heart test during a free regular checkup for $850

Thanks!!

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I received an inflated bill of around 1700$ from a 10 minute visit to baylor university med cntr. The question is what do we do about it?
Supposedly this is a top hospital I'm sure. They certainly are great at inflating bills, be warned

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I believe all the stories I read. I have a few of my own. this last dispute has left me in tears I am so upset. I don't know what to do.

I just needed to say something.

Over over charging and charging for false treatment is WRONG.

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My son had emergency surgery in 3/9/2014 because his appendix was inflamed. I had asked for an in-network doctor. It turns out that the doctor who did my son's surgery was an out of network doctor. The insurance does not want to pay the $24,000 for the surgery and my son failed to ask why the insurance didn't pay(what does he know about insurance). Now the insurance company does not want to speak to me because he is 24 years old. I requested some information from the insurance about the itemized bill. They never sent it. I didn't hear from the doctor. Now this case is in collections. My son can not deal with stress nor does he like to talk to people because he is ADHD and has problems retaining information. I am in the process of sending the insurance (BCBS) a form that I could speak on his behalf. Which by the way they have to mail.

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I recently went to the ER at Fort Wayne, iN for abdominal pain. They provided me with an IV, pain meds, and CT scan. I spent a total of 3 hours in the ER. My bill is over $10,000. I haven't received the bill yet, just the EOB and I intend to get an itemized statement and and fight it.

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Per my doctor's advice I went to Highlands Medical Center Outpatient Clinic, Scottsboro Alabama for an abdominal x-ray ( abdominal pain). The outpatient clinic said "oh no, your doctor wanted you to go to the ER in case they need to schedule more tests". I told her that if I had to go back there they would come up with more unnecessary tests and a huge bill that I could not afford. At that time I told her that if that happened, I would get up and walk out. Against my better judgement I went to the ER where a nurse took my blood pressure before leaving the room. I soon realized that if I stayed I would also be billed by the ER Physician so I walked out and went home. I didn't tell anyone I was leaving. The hospital billed me for $132 and the next day I received a bill from the ER physician for $426.00. I called the hospital billing office for an explanation of the $132.00 bill, asking that she pull the charts from my visit. She did so and told me that the charts contained "nothing at all" and that the $132.00 was the facility charge. I reluctantly paid the bill but have no intention of paying for a physician's ER examination that never took place. I called the Doctor's billing office and informed them that the bill was in error and that I had no intention of paying it. They are supposed to "get back with me" but I'll likely never hear from them until they send me an overdue notice on the current bill.
What can I do? Should I get an attorney and sue them for fraudulent billing?

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Greedy scum. Everyone in the 'healthcare' industry are robbing people blind and the crooked government is behind the racket.

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This "crime of costs" continues. $6,439 to get the opportunity to sit 5.5 hours in waiting room, then another 30 minutes in the ER room, and maybe 10 minutes of seeing actual doctor. If we included the actual time in the ER bed, the nurse, admission staff, the doctor time.... it totaled up 1 hour of time. That's $6,439/hour, that's $56.4 million per year. (note, it's a 24/hr day/365 day year operation if you want to check the math) Not bad income for the hospital.

The facts:
On February 25, 2014, my wife and son were sick. Vomit and diarrhea. Normally would have just powered through it at home, but wife temperature was 102.5 with ibuprofen, so called our doctors office. It was a Tuesday office day, but our Doc said go to ER because my wife has Addisons and this could spiral in danger.
Arrived ER (drove ourselves) and found full lobby of sick bleeding people. Got seen by admission, insurance cards in hand, we are fully insured, upper-middle income... not that it should matter.
Then, both my son and wife had blood samples taken in admission, were given IV with Zophren (anti-vomit medication) in placed in the waiting room with IVs hanging. Then we waited, 5.5 hours. Then moved to ER bed, both son and wife in same bed, and waited another 30 minutes. Then seen by nurse, who took pulse/temp/BP. Then another 15 minutes of wait. Then doctor. Nice guy, quick examine of both. Reviewed blood work. Said "yep, sick, we'll give you another IV, some more Zophren, and a prescription".
In fairness, the IVs and Zophren helped greatly and were needed.
Total of about 7 hours by the time we got out. 1 hour of which we were actually seen by someone and not just waiting. $3,493 for the wife, $2,945 for the son - $6,439.

I'm disputing the $2,200 ER bed charge for the son since both wife and son shared same bed....but overall, again, ridiculous.

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On Jan 1, 2014, I took my wife to Las Colinas Urgent medical care, Irving, TX. The earlier day, a fruit can at Walmart tossed over and fell on her feet and she got a deep cut on her toe. The walmart staff assisted her by doing her some first aid and advised her to get a Anti-tetanus shot. At the hospital, she was given the Anti-tetanus shot. The hospital staff did nothing else and totally we stayed in the ER for about 45 mins. They did not do any dressing on the injured toe as we said we have bandages at home. They sent us a bill of $800 for the shot along with ER charges!!! I do not understand why they have to make us wait in a separate room as this was just a shot which went for and got it.
Any advice on how to deal with this exorbitant charge is highly appreciated. Thank you!!!

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We are in Ohio. A couple of weeks ago, my husband made a trip to the ER because he got a sliver of metal in his eye at work. He was in the ER for less than 10 minutes - he said the actual doctor was with him for MAYBE 2 minutes. Doctor walked in the room, popped the sliver out, and left. Today we received a bill for the emergency physician - $676!!! That didn't even include the hospital portion of the bill. Luckily for us, this was a workman's comp claim and the hospital just hadn't communicated that with the doctor, so a phone call was all that was needed to redirect the bill. But the fact remains - that bill is outrageous! If we weren't one of the lucky ones with coverage of one type or another, this one bill could have thrown us into financial turmoil. I simply cannot believe that this was in any way a reasonable bill for this incident, and I don't understand why hospitals are allowed to set these kinds of fees.

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I've been sick over my husband's emergency room visit. We were there for 3 hours for chest discomfort. The total cost of the 3 hour emergency room visit was over $8000. After the insurance discount we are obligated to pay $3078 and we have still yet to receive bills from the x-ray technician and the doctor that saw him for 2 min. I called the billing dept and they told me just for my husband to walk into the emergency without anything being done was over $3000. The room they put him in was $2900. How can anyone justify this kind of cost for 3 hours! Nevertheless it appears my family will be in debt for a few years paying for a 3 hour emergency visit!

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I had sinus surgery in June 2013 to repair a deviated septum and sinus turbinates expanded. This was outpatient surgery. I was at the hospital for about 5 hours with no complications. Prior to my surgery I went for pre-op work and to take care of my co-pay. I paid 200.00 for my part. When I asked if my insurance was accepted I was told "yes, we accept your insurance". However, I was not told they were out of network. Had I known that I simply would have chosen the other hospital. A few weeks ago I received a letter from an arbitration company because apparently my insurance company was disputing the bill from the hospital because they had been billed for nearly $83,000.00!! I nearly died seeing that. After making some calls I was assured that I'm not responsible for that bill because my copay was accepted. I have not received any bill so far from the surgeon or anesthesiologist .

Even though I'm not responsible for that bill I am wondering how that bill could possibly be legal? It wasn't heart surgery or anything like that. I'm fearful of what the doctors bills are going to be but my mind is boggled on how a hospital could overcharge so ridiculously and it be legal?

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I have often been over-charged in a hospital ER as well as an inpatient. There should always be statements given or sent to patients in simple terms that are easily understood by any person not associated with the medical field. Hospitals and doctor fee's can be double charged by using the coding systems that are in place. The average person has no way to understand these charges and I think that is the hope of the billing offices. If you are charged for a shot that you did not receive how are you going to know if it is listed under a code? There should be laws on the books to provide simple statements to all patients. The codes can be there for he pro's but an explanation should be beside it. One wrong key stroke can make a bill so high many people can not pay it and a mistake is easily made. It's not fair to put so many people in debt for things that have not received or was coded wrong.

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St Mary's ER in Greensboro,GA 30642 charged me $3,555.12 for visit of 45min-1 hr. Most major thing they did was a CT scan. The amount is a bit way high for what was done. Need to see about getting amount to a fair market amount.

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I can't even get an itemized bill! They just keep saying the $3000 is itemized for sitting there for an hour and talking to a doctor. Oh and they also took blood pressure and temperature! That must be what cost so much :| There should be a way to reduce this to a reasonable amount :|

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You gotta laugh (mockingly) at the way "Diane T" throws the gratuitous phrase "an ER which caters to low income and illegal immigrants" into her story.

Can we leave your racism out of this?

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It started roughly 5 months ago with what felt like a UTI but turned out not to be in the end. After a urine test they found no blood in the urine and I was put on liquid laxatives because the first thing my GP thought was that my colon was clogged. So after 3 or 4 times of having to go through the pain of drinking Magnesium Citrate for days at a time my symptoms only started to get worse.

Finally about 3 months ago I called my Dr’s after hour’s line because I could hardly breathe let alone walk because of the severe pain I was in. I was told by my Dr. to go to an ER which caters to low income and illegal immigrants due to severe stomach/side pains that had been bothering me for about 2 1/2 months by that time. (I am not illegal so I do not qualify for Emergency Medical and I make $4 too much on Disability to qualify for state subsidized care so my only hope is that Medicare A picks up the cost but that means I HAVE to be hospitalized) OR that the Dr figures out what is wrong so that it would be worth my putting what was left in my savings towards getting rid of the horrible pain I was in.

After waiting for several hours in the ER waiting room doubled over in pain, I was finally put in a bed and all the Dr. did was convince me to have some Morphine in an IV even though I was afraid that it would dull the pain to the point that I wouldn’t be able to pin point where the pain was and ran some blood tests. After an hour or so the PA came back and said that my blood and urine looked fine. Since when is BRIGHT orange and minimal urine fine? Not to mention my feces had turned a bright yellow color over the course of the 2 1/2 months this had been going on.

I asked the PA if could it be a Gallstone or Kidney stone (I was unable to urinate into the cup when asked and my urine flow had been getting worse over the course of my illness). Eventually after they ruled out NOTHING and didn't even listen to my symptoms, they wanted to give me more Morphine as the pain started to return but I denied it... I was there to find out what was going on... not to get drugged up for Gods sake! Finally I was able to get a mini ultrasound done on my gallbladder and the PA said he saw 1 stone but didn't know the size and he would need to talk to the Dr. to see if he could send me for an ultrasound that would measure it. That was soon eliminated by another dose of the Magnesium Citrate detox I did when I got home. (Having high blood pressure and drinking Magnesium Citrate for up to 5 days at a time has its own hazards.)

Hours passed and no word on the ultrasound so finally I decided that I was leaving since I don't have "normal" insurance due to being disabled and I couldn't foot a $10,000 bill unless I am admitted into the hospital but they were acting like I was only there for the drugs since I had Alprazolam and Vicodin in my system (Alprazolam due to CC-PTSD and Vicodin because of the pain I had been in for so long). So after roughly 6 hours I was so frustrated that I took out my own IV, told the PA I was leaving since they obviously did not care to listen to my symptoms to find out what was wrong with me.

All he cared about was writing me a script for MORE pain meds! I was horrified!! I denied those too and went home. Next thing I know I am being billed over $4300 for the ER and $700 for the Dr. who didn't even do anything but talk to me and tell me I needed a pain killer.

They are trying to charge me for the second morphine shot that I didn't even take, but since they filled the syringe I owe them?! I didn't even ask for the shot!

In the end I went back to my GP the next day and because of where the pain progressed to he decided it was a kidney stone!

Had the ER LISTENED to what I said to them and the fact that I couldn't even urinate (when I did it was so little and dark that I wasn't even sure it was a viable sample, it was not even an ounce) and that it had been getting worse over time they might have caught what was REALLY wrong.

It took another month before my GP put me on meds to open up the prostate so I could urinate a little and hopefully pass the stone or stones; however I just kept getting worse, I couldn’t even walk up a flight of stairs and lost 30 lbs (not a total downside). I kept asking my GP to have me admitted into a hospital for testing but no luck.

Finally 4 ½ to 5 months into it I woke up one morning with my neck burning and when I put an ice pack on my whole chest broke out in a HORRIBLE rash. I woke up my husband and told him what was going on and that is the last I remember until the next day. My husband started giving me Hydrangea root extract every 4 hours because one of the benefits is detoxing the urinary tract, intestines and helping to break down kidney stones. I have never urinated so much blood in my life and that lasted at least 3 days.

For the next week I kept trying to call my GP and his PA to get answers but no luck, finally after a week in bed my GP said he would try to have me admitted into a hospital but I never heard back from him! Thank God for Homeopathic remedies or I wouldn't even be sitting here to type this. In the end due to all the symptoms we figured out that it was more than likely one or more BIG kidney stones blocking my kidney or kidneys from eliminating the toxins from leaving my body (which was making my body feel like a Mac truck hit me) due to a blockage hence the not being able to urinate! We still have no idea if I am out of he woods or if it was kidney stones, I am still taking the Hydrangea root and Dandelion root extracts just incase and I won’t know for sure until I can get hospitalized for a full check up. As to date I have lost around 35 lbs in 4 to 5 months which should have proven there was an issue!

At this point I don't care if the hospital puts the bill on my credit report, because of their lack of giving a proper care I almost died. It took me a week before I was able to get out of bed just to go downstairs and 2 weeks before I could any eat solid foods again. Week 3 and I am finally able to walk a little more, breathe again and leave my house to go on a shopping trip though I still have to take it easy and not overdo it or I get very dizzy. I was put on a liquid diet to detoxify my system and try to break down the stone(s) that was making it so my kidney(s) were not functioning properly. After serious research on the symptoms I had over the past 5 months had we not caught it in time my kidney or kidneys were likely to fail and it would have been lights out.

I told the hospital I had been to the ER at, about how bad I got due to their negligence yet they still harass me to pay a bill for something they didn't even catch that could have potentially killed me?! All it would have taken was to admit me, do an MRI and we would have known what the problem was/is, however that seems to be too much work for them and yet they still want me to pay close to $5000 total for NOTHING?!

The greediness of it all boggles the mind!

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The way the hospital billed you was extremely ridiculous. I am glad you are fighting this.

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The same thing happened to me in Florida. I made a few phone calls about it starting with my health insurance provider as they paid the bill. I told them half of the charges are fraudulent as I never received the treatment or medications they billed them for. They did not seem to care so I dropped it. I did have a balance due from that bill though that I had to pay that my insurance company did not pay.

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I am the 'Robin' in this article. I found where I had paid, out of pocket, in July 2011, for a Complete Metabolic Panel & CBC with Differential/Platelet; lipid panel;Valproic Acid level tests at Enviva Health Services in Corsicana. The price: $68.00.

The price for a complete metabolic panel at Navarro Regional on 03/09/2012: $398.00. The price for a CBC with PLT AUTO COMPD at Navarro Regional Hospital in Corsicana, TX: $248.86.

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