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  • Bruce murray February 17, 2015 at 3:28 am

    Own 2005 f150 5.4 triton took for tune up at 96k miles. 6 broken plugs later cost me 900$ plus!!! Then at 117k engine broke inside! Replaced with used engine with 57k miles! for 4500$ !!!!! Now 2.5 yrs later engine misfiring and mechanics can’t come up with solution! Ford dealer mechanic said they have 3 in back same thing! Bullshit ford! Going to have to refinance again!!! Never buy ford again!

  • bob tillman February 17, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    hi i just had my spark plugs changed on my 2004 5.4 f150 7 broke 1 didnt it cost me 700.00 to fix can i join the class action suit i just read about it todayon lawayers and settlements .com thanks

  • Tonya February 20, 2015 at 12:10 pm

    This is not an old issue however. I have a Navigator 2006 same issue took it to Ford as was running sluggish. they said nothing wrong other than need spark plugs changed they gave me an estimate of $700 dollars and said they have a special tool that gets them out without breaking I still said no and researched it my mechanic friend bought the tool online .. we will see. amazon.com/Lisle-LIS65600-Broken-Remover-Engines/dp/B00267PZUK%3FSubscriptionId%3D14H876SFAKFS0EHBYQ02%26tag%3Dhttphubpac074-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00267PZUK

  • Don trende March 6, 2015 at 3:03 am

    1999 f150 blowing plugs busting coil packs ,repair sleeves ,4threads ,,?

  • dave March 8, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    Kris Parish
    These complaints are old but I have an 08 expedition that just hit 110K miles and took it to my dealership (Tom Smith ford in Lillington NC) and they pulled the plugs without breaking them and replaced them for a hair over $200. I am so happy with my expedition. Maybe those complaining should have taken it to the dealer and not done it themselves. They would have saved themselves a hell of a lot of hassle.

    Probally didn’t even change them. Thats was dealerships do. Unless you saw all of the old plugs. Took mine to dealership to get breaks changed only changed one side.

    • John T Elliott April 1, 2015 at 3:28 am

      Went to “FORD” ,broken plugs, replaced, then they blew out.!!! Next, new cylinder heads, plus timing chains, and tensioners, unnecessary!! Want my money back!

    • Jim Arnold June 3, 2015 at 11:32 am

      Did take to Ford Service Dept. where I purchased vehicle. Guess you just got damn lucky.

  • Barry Brown March 21, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    Hi I got a 05 f150 5.4 with the same problems with the spark plugs ford should mam up and fix there problems.
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  • Ahmed March 30, 2015 at 7:06 am

    what can cause ford explorer 2004,plug mouth to black.

  • robertrobert zeigler sr. March 30, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    I want to change my spark plugs on my 2004 f150 5.4 L engine but it cost just too much. I’m on a fixed income and even the $200.00 tools to do it myself is out of my budget. Now that I need that another problem has popped up. The tab on the transmission reverse band has broken off. No telling what that will cost. I have done auto mechanic work for 40 years and this in the first time I have ever seen a transmission band break in any automatic transmission. I think ford has deliberately made these parts to break so the owners will have to spend money they don’t have to fix these problems or trade in there vehicles.

  • robert zeigler sr. March 30, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    I want to change my spark plugs in my 2004 f150. It has the 5.4 L engine and I’m on fixed income so it cosy too much for me to change them. Even the tools I need to do it myself cost over $200.00 so I can’t afford that either. Now the reverse band tab in the transmission has broken off. I have no reverse in this truck. No telling how much that will cost to fix. For 40 years I was an auto mechanic and even worked at a Ford dealer at one time. All my years in auto repair I have never seen a band in an automatic transmission brake. I think ford is making sorry parts to brake so people either fix what they can’t afford to fix or trade it in for there own money making strategy.

  • Ed M April 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    Looking to have the plugs changed in my 2005 F150 but based on problems I’ve but reading about I’m really reluctant!.

    • Marc April 27, 2015 at 3:55 pm

      I also own a 2005 F150 and I am not a mechanic at all, but I was able to replace my sparkplugs and boots for less than $300 myself. Here is how I did it. I was getting hesitation during acceleration and after some research, I determined it was the plugs. The truck had almost 90,000 miles on it. I did purchase the Lisle tool first in case I broke one (which I did on the first plug, but that was the only one). I bought some Sea Foam Creep spray and liberally sprayed all the plugs before I started. I let it sit and soak the plug threads for 20 minutes. I then used a socket to break the sparkplugs loose and if it moved/unscrewed a little, sprayed it again and waited 10 more minutes. I broke the #1 plug trying to rush it. After that, all the plugs came out without breaking and I used Champion one piece plugs to replace them with. The Sea Foam Creep spray was excellent for breaking down the carbon buildup on the plugs. The plugs are not cheap at $12 each and the coils on the plugs were purchased on Ebay for $60 for the set. My local mechanic wanted a minimum of $300 to do the job just for the plugs and then another $50 for each one that broke if it. If I had not purchased the Lisle tool, I would have saved $100.

  • Mary April 16, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    Have. 2004 f150. Having plug issues. Is this settled or not. Why is there not. A recall I called ford dealer he said no recall and it can be 250. – 800. Depending on plug breakage I had the plugs change d about 4 years ago. Is this problem with original plugs or all

  • Perry Acklin April 20, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    2004 expedition that needs new plugs. I have heard of the horror stories and the cost

    • Daniel Skinner April 24, 2015 at 2:32 am

      I have had to do the spark plug replacement. It is very unfortunate to have 4 out of the 8 plugs break off in the heads. I fortunately am very mechanically inclined . I did my research and bought the tools needed to be successful in this job. The unfortunate part that is disturbing to me is the plugs that were removed were the new style plug that is supposed to be redesigned and improved. Between the paint issues and now the plugs, I would opt out to buy another Ford product. I have had Ford`s since 1998. I`m sure I`m not the only one who feels this way. Way to go Ford. Make a Engineering mistake and make the public who keep you in business pay for it 2 times.. C`mon Ford step up or feel the repercussions of a disgusted public who is not willing to buy your product again.

  • Maryann Quinn April 30, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    Has the lawsuit against Ford for the spark plug removal debacle been settled. If not how do I join. I just purchased an involved vehicle from a dealership and was never told about this issue. It’s a 2006 Lincoln Mark lt with 83K miles.

  • Doug Zaga May 9, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    I was wondering if there is any update to the class action lawsuit. My 2006 Expedition is at 90K miles and coming up soon for the 100K spark plug replacement. My Ford dealership has told me about the issues with the plugs and that they have a tool to remove any broken spark plug but that I am responsible for the cost. A known Ford issue and Ford refuses to be responsible for it. What a shame and costly for the owner!

  • Chad May 10, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    found this site after researching the issue and figured I throw in my 2 cents. Happened to me today. I got a 2002 ford e-350 with the 5.4 8cyl that has 88,000 miles. I go to pull out onto the main road and boom…a loud popping noise coming from the engine. My dog started going nuts barking at the engine. At the time, it scared the &$%$ outta me. After I finally got the truck home and was able to pinpont the sound, found the coil pack was shredded and the plug was loose enough to come right out with no tools. Now, I don’t know what ford was thinking with this particulatr vehicle. The plugs are near impossible to get to, with room barely enough to fit your hand in there. The best I read so far is that ford really just doesn’t care. Their design shows their intentions… it was almost set up to make it impossible to change, so they labeled it as plugs that just don’t need to be changes for at least 100,000. In an aluminum head? BS. Let’s get em out there, make our money, it’ll run for a while but eventually will fault out….but not our problem if it happens out of warranty. Thanks ford. Class act business model….I should have learned my lesson from previous experiences with ford, but I think aside from class action suites and waiting for recalls, just don’t ever buy a ford. We are the consumer, thus the life line to these corporations. They need to learn a lesson, that people wont put up with what would appear to be blatant disregard for their customers trust, as well as safety. There is a level of tolerance for things that go wrong with our vehicles, it happens. And most will step up to the plate and at least address the issue gracefully. But ford, most of the time, issues become so common place that they become cliches. I just have to be extremely grateful for the internet. At least now people have a voice and can pursue actions with others behind them.

  • Nelson Rivera June 9, 2015 at 10:15 am

    I have a 2007 FORD EXPEDITION that was hesitating on excelleration so i took it to a mechanic we started to change the spark plugs but they kept breaking, we bought the tool to remove the broken piecea but pieces of those fellinto the engine and locked it up. I had to replace the engine $5700 it costed me. I need to be involved in this lawsuit.

  • Joe Spivey June 9, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    While it is true that the Ford 5.4 has a few problems that definitely should have been caught by the quality control department before the engines left the factory the spark plugs will normally come out of the engines if you get the engine hot, work quickly to get the coils out, spray air into the plug holes to get debris out then spray a small amount of penetrant into each hole. I have removed hundreds and broke only four using this method. I hope this helps. These engines also have a defective oil pump design which if you use anything other than a Motorcraft oil filter will cause the oil filter to break up and end up with pieces of the oil filter in the oil pickup screen. This quickly destroys the thrust bearing on the crankshaft and allows the crankshaft to rub against the engine block destroying both pieces. I have replaced over 40 of these and any tech at any Ford dealership has seen this before. Jasper engines commissioned Melling oil pumps to manufacture a better oil pump which Melling sells directly and I would highly recommend BEFORE your engine sounds like a diesel. I totally agree that both the ridiculous spark plug design and the oil pump/ engine thrust bearing problems should have been addressed during quality control and customers should not be used as beta testers who paid over $30,000 to show Ford their mistakes.

  • Frank Festag June 11, 2015 at 1:50 am

    my 2002 F-150 just puked out number 7 spark plug and the threads as well.
    This apparently is a very well known problem out here. 500 dollars later, the mechanic put in a special kit heli-coil to fix it. I have since learned that FORD simply chooses to ignore that their better idea to cheapen their costs would be to put in an aluminum threaded piece that only had 5 threads as opposed to the 16 threads that are on the spark plug!! FORD knew they had problems with this and they chose to ignore it. Totally unacceptable!!!!!!!!! I love FORDs, but this really infuriates me. I want a new truck dammittt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Frank Festag June 11, 2015 at 1:58 am

    I would like to say to the genius at FORD that designed the 5.4 Triton motor to please KISS MY ASS!!!!! This is absolutely theee worst motor they ever built!!!!! My 1972 Pinto was more dependable than this crappy motor!!! Just Google it, and look at all the hundreds of stories about this sh*t motor. FORD should be sued over this intentional plot to f*ck the public.
    I contacted FORD about this and of course, NO REPLY.
    FORD truly stands for Found ON Road Dead, or Fix Or Repair Daily

  • 2004 F-150 Driver June 11, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    Changed my plugs at 120,000 no problems. Had the Motorcraft SP-505 plugs that break. All I had to do was run through three gas tanks each with two bottles of techron fuel injector cleaner. Burned all the carbon out before I removed the plugs. Warm the engine up. Blew out the plug wells with compressed air and then spray a little carb gumout and kroil in the holes. Wait fifteen minutes and let the engine cool to room temp. Took five out with an impact wrench, the other three hard to reach with a torque wrench set to 30 foot pounds so as not to over-torque the plugs. They all came out in one piece. Lots of prep work involved for sure, but not hard once you know what you’re doing. Yes, bad design by Ford, but it’s not something that cannot be overcome with basic mechanical know-how. Put Champion one pieces in but they misfired horribly. Went with the more expensive Motorcraft SP-515 plugs, still two piece but reinforced with an extra weld to prevent breakage. Put anti-sieze on the shrouds like the TSB says. I think this problem was more of a bonanza for the dealerships than anything, taking advantage of people who don’t have the time with scare tactics. Did my research, saved a lot of money and hassle. Good luck with your plugs!

  • Lynn June 15, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    Newest victim. 2007 Mustang GT v8 with 4.6 L engine. Two broken plugs. One completely seized up inside head. Lisle tool kit won’t remove it. I’m selling as soon as I put 1000.00 to fix it. Done with Ford products.

  • Brandon Keith June 18, 2015 at 11:49 am

    Hi I have a 2006 ford f250 with the 5.4 liter engine. I just started the spark plug repair because truck will not run by itself. I always do my own tune ups on all of my vehicles and have never seen anything like these spark plugs before. I just bought the truck in February 2015 had a slight miss but ford said its normal for the 5.4 so I let it go for a while. Now yesterday June 16th I stopped at a red light and the truck started missing violently but being close to home I babied the truck getting it home. Knowing it was a spark issue I checked the first spark plug in bank one ( passenger side front plug). It was terrible getting the plug loose but slowly and patiently got the plug out. The plug was covered with a thick layer of carbon ( rust like substance) and no electrod at all!! ( what makes the spark). Surprised with my find I moved on to the second plug back, and again terrible to remove, and again descusting plug. Then moving on to plug three. Was tight at first but loosened after only two turned feeling happy it came out easily then when pulling the plug out I noticed the bottom half of the spark plug is still stuck in the engine. Very concerned I called ford and ford notified me that its very common for the 5.4 from 2004 to 2008 to have spark plug issues and ford stated they always break inside the engine because of the design of the spark plug tube. Ford then notified me that it is a very costly repair if one breaks while the ford mechanic works on it and they always do so the have to use a special tool to remove the bottom half of the plug. Ford stated the plugs need changed every 20,000 miles in the 5.4 to keep from seizing in the engine. Angrily I asked why that is not in the manual or told to the customer upon purchasing the vehicle. Ford have no reply to the question and just said I need to buy the special tool to get the bottom half of the plug out and good luck. So in short my usually quick spark plug change turned into a long drawn out process, and even with me doing it myself costs almost three hundred dollars. !wow!

    Spark plugs $13.00 a peace = $94
    Special tool $149
    total cost $243 to do yourself

  • Steve Cohran June 25, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    Am I eligible class action for my 1998 Ford F-150? I am experiencing faulty coil pack problems. I have replaced the coil pack 8 times.

  • Aaron June 29, 2015 at 1:01 am

    This was fixed with 5.4L 3v engines built after November 2007. There’s a sticker on the drivers side valve cover of the engine with the build date on it. My 2008 Expedition engine has the new *don’t break off inside* plugs in it. Amazon sells a removal tool to do this yourself if you have the old style plugs that break. Do some research online.

  • Jackie Wildonger July 1, 2015 at 1:21 pm

    This is just ABSOLUTE BULLSH*T ,FORD NEEDS TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MORONS THEY HIRED WHO CAME UP WITH THIS DESIGN FLAW ! THIS IS COSTING HARDWORKING AMERICANS HUNDREDS & or THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OUT OF THEIR POCKETS
    I ‘m the owner of a 2002 Ford Expedition 5.4 Ltr (EB) with 64,387 miles on it . OH YES I AM NOW THE PROUD OWNER OF AN INOPERABLE VEHICLE THAT COST ME $ 40,000 NEW .Thanks Ford because of your INCOMPETENCE AND YOUR LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY,& TRANSPARENCY TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THIS IS YOUR FAULT,not the thousands of HARDWORKING AMERICANS, who are screwed paying for the repairs out of our own pockets. I was sitting at a red light made a right turn then BOOM. It scared the SH*T OUT OF ME, Being a heart patient on top of this ,IS ABSOLUTEL BULL SH*T am doing better than other people are because the coil & wiring harness WERE NOT damaged ,THANK GOD their wasn’t any damage done to the fuel rail. Being on a fixed income , I’m at a loss trying to figure out how too pay for the repairs and it has come down to going without much needed HEART MEDICATIONS or fixing my only vehicle !! I am certain that HENRY FORD IS ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE!Back then it was about moving AMERICA forward and the PRIDE IN DOING SO with the Ford Motor company. Now its about SCREWING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! There is no more pride in these.corporations . THERE’S ONLY GREED,AND THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY HAS ALREADY PROVEN THAT !! Thanks You CEO ;WILLIAM CLAY FORD.JR
    MARK FEILDS AND LETS NOT FORGET THE , VICE PRESIDENT, ZIAD OJAKLI
    THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE GOING TO SCREW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PLEASE GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO LUBE UP BEFORE YOU SCREW US .

  • Dave July 2, 2015 at 1:54 pm

    I bought my truck new 2005 F150 5.4l engine now with 70,000 miles. I had an Engine Code #PO302. I just changed the Plugs, Coil Packs and fuel injectors.
    This is my procedure and I had NO broken plugs.
    Blow out spark plug holes first; use PB Blaster spray about 1 tsp; lossen plug 1/8 to 1/4 turn and wait ( waited 30 mins or overnight), turn slowly; before removing plug use paper towel to remove most of the Blaster from the hole; install spark plug and torque to 26 ft lb.
    I had engine Code PO302 which means number 2 cylinder misfire. It takes 3 elements for our engine to run-Fuel, Spark and Air. Spark plug and new Coil did not cure my problem.
    New fuel injector did.
    Ford knew of faulty Fuel Injectors, too. Increased warranty (silently) on injectors to 10 years/100,000 miles. If you have one bad injector the rest are about to fail. Replacing injectors are easier if you are doing the spark plugs.
    The next things which may fail are Phasers, VCT solenoids, Cam Tensioners and Cam Chain Guides. Oil Pressure is critical for these engines. The engine needs 25 PSI oil pressure to make the VVT components to work properly.
    Bob-the-oil-guy suggest using Marvel Mystery Oil-1 quart subbing for 1 quart of Oil when doing an Oil change. MMO helps to remove Sludge, Varnish and Carbon. Oil passages are small. Another product suggested is Kreen (not sold at retail) to remove Sludge.
    Remember the Carbon is still inside the piston bores. Use a good fuel injection additive in your fuel every 5,000 miles or once a year.
    I suggest replacing your plugs every 60,000 miles or 4 years.
    I used Autolite HT15 plugs
    Airtex/Wells Coil packs
    Airtex Injectors (logo of FORD on side)

  • Brian July 3, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    Please add me to the list. Non-dealer shop broke 3 on removal. Took it to them because the “stealership” wanted $900 for starters. The shop has had the truck for a week and will have it through the long weekend. I won’t be able to get it back until Monday, the earliest. They are charging me $600 to replace plugs that I should’ve been able to do myself for about $100 and less than an hour of work.

    • Brian July 10, 2015 at 10:32 am

      Update…the way the plug broke inside the head, the shop is now going to need to remove the head, have it milled and add a new head gasket…just quoted $1900 total for everything. This is insane. All it needed was new plugs.

  • Robyn July 21, 2015 at 12:31 am

    Its not just those models its 2000 ford expedition xlt four wheel drive also I know I got one

  • Michelle November 28, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Nighmare is an understament! What has FORD done or have they attempted a recall on this problem? I have my 2006, Lincoln Navigator in the shop and its going to cost almost 3000.00 to do these repairs due to the spark plug being stuck in the cylcinder head. Has anyone even gotten a response from anyone in regards to this so called Class Action Lawsuit?

  • phil April 15, 2014 at 10:45 am

    now u will have tranny problems with that chevy JUNK U will be back to a ford

  • LAS_Admin November 29, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Hi Michelle–and everyone else who's affected by the Ford Spark Plug class action–unfortunately, given the amount of time a class action can take to work its way through the courts, it can be pretty frustrating to get updates. As such, the last update on this was in May, and it's still going on. The case is now an MDL (multidistrict litigation) out of US District Court for Northern Ohio. You can read more about the case and track updates/filings here: http://www.ohnd.uscourts.gov/home/clerk-s-office-

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